March 29, 2016
Dan Savage Talks 'Religious Freedom' Laws, Shades Susan Sarandon on MSNBC
READ TIME: 2 MIN.
Dan Savage spoke with MSNBC's Chris Hayes Monday night and discussed the anti-LGBT bills in Georgia and North Carolina. He also called out actress Susan Sarandon, who spoke with Hayes right before Savage, and suggested she'd vote for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.
Sarandon, who has been campaigning for Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, said she understands if some Sanders supporters would have a problem voting for Hillary, should she receive the nomination.
"I think a lot of people are 'sorry, I just can't bring myself to [vote for Hillary Clinton]'...I don't know [what I'll do]. I'm going to see what happens," she said. "Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately. If he gets in, then things will really explode. Some people feel that. If you feel it's pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now then you're not in touch with the status quo. The status quo's not working."
Shortly after her remarks, which the Internet is now destroying her over, Savage appeared on "All in With Chris Hayes." But before discussing "religious freedom" laws, the LGBT activist and writer instead he comment on Sarandon's comments.
"Can I just say I'm for Bernie, or Hillary, or both," he said. "Come November I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is, because the lesser of two evils is less evil, and I don't think Donald will bring the revolution."
Savage then discussed the anti-LGBT measures in Georgia and North Carolina.
"North Carolina's just beginning to come under the brunt of the assault it's going to come under from corporations, from businesses, from its own university system...Universities like to be able to attract talent and a lot of that talent is LGBT, and people are not going to move to a state where they can't use the goddamn bathroom," he said.
Savage also commented on the debate about allowing trans people use the bathrooms of their choosing, saying, conservatives are "just packaging old crap in a new bag," referring to the early days of the gay rights movement when similar politicians claimed gay men prayed on young boys in public bathrooms.
Watch Sarandon and Savage speak on MSNBC below:
